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levaz
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Joined: 07 Sep 2006
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Location: Canada
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:13 pm |
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I agree that Marcos has lost any credibility to the masses. There has been no news form his end what-so-ever.
None of the MA members that I know have complained in the past month or so. In all fairness, it has been very quiet from these people too!
Thanks for answering the NSFG questions, Gray Eminence.
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Gray Eminence
Investor
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 160
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:19 pm |
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FXE is dead for me, but I will still looks after some FXEMAs owners, they could let us know at least the results of those MAs.
You're welcome, I created the question, normal that I answer |
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slappy
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Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 77
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Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:24 am |
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I agree with many, that Marcos' lack of communication has not been very encouraging. A regular update would be nice, however it appears as though no updates is the route he has taken. |
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d1ck0
Moderator
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 226
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Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:06 pm |
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Although I dont normally promote MMG, there is an update from 'Van Bassidor' who apperently still speaks to Marcos. Take the information based on your own opinion here. Link below.
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index...&#entry3288917 |
Last edited by d1ck0 on Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:38 am; edited 1 time in total |
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bedul2006
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Joined: 26 Nov 2006
Posts: 51
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:54 am |
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Broken Link, can you post the correct link? |
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d1ck0
Moderator
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 226
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:43 am |
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bedul2006 wrote: |
Broken Link, can you post the correct link? |
Weird, link is correct but does not work any longer from this forum. I've posted the remarks from member 'Ixion' & 'Van Bassidor' below for you to read.
Ixion Quote
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ok, thanks for the response and I'm sorry for questioning your motives.
But I am surprised to hear that Marcos is still working to recover FX-E. do you think he could post here to reassure members?
I'd actually given up on ever being refunded........
thanks.. |
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I can confirm a number of accounts he has set up. I understand your frustration, which is completely justified due to the lack of communication.
I will mention it to him next time I speak with him. I try to focus on my own issues and undertakings, it is not my obligation to organise or coordinate a program that is not mine if you understand. On many occasions I have given Marcos my suggestions, such as suggesting that he perform partial refunds immediately on the day that he announced that fxe had suffered losses months ago. It seems he is only interested in full refunds.
Although it is not my obligation to be performing updates, it is something that would be the duty of the program operators in my opinion, I can confirm that they have not disappeared like it seems and appear to be making progress in accomplishing refunds. We will see what happens, I have no idea of any time frames.
I hope this all can come to a positive conclusion soon.
The unfortunate truth of this arena is that it is a highly unprofessional one with very low standards and misfit programs, run by average joes and untrained 'unprofessionals'. The best of this arena are still far short of the quality expected of a serious financial operation.
FXE was still one of the best in the arena, the problem is the arena for the most part. This is as good as it has gotten, you can't expect professionalism in a completely unregulated and totally unprofessional arena.
Even simple qualities such as communication or some kind of security are attributes associated with professional firms, not HYIP programs. Frustration is completely well founded and understandable but it's almost as if people are expecting actions from these programs like they are some highly regarded and highly professional financial institution, regulated and compliant, when they are the exact opposite. Most, if not all of the HYIP programs are totally illegal and violate every country's pooling laws. I think it's best people come to realise what they are actually dealing with hear instead of expecting professional actions and executive decisions from these programs.
FXE was one of the best in a joke of an arena.
This post has been edited by Van Bassidor: Today, 07:33 AM |
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bedul2006
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Joined: 26 Nov 2006
Posts: 51
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:57 am |
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Thanks d1ck0 for bringing the information here, but honestly I've put FXE program and also my $$ in loss folder.. so if one day there is $$ coming from FXE refund I'll take it as unexpected gift...
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levaz
Site Admin
Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Posts: 2422
Location: Canada
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:05 pm |
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Here is the latest communication between Jude and Marcos:
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I’ve rang him up in 1am his time, he’ll be talking to me again later when he wakes up. Fair enough.
Marcos Matos: man, I need TIME, HERMANN FUCKED ME, NOW THE RECOVERING PROCESS IS DOING FINE, YOU KNOW I WONT DISAPEAR I AM HERE, MY ADDRESS STILL DE SAME, MY PHONE NUMBER STILL THE SAME. WANT PROOFS FROM OUR LOSS?
OK, IF YOU REALY WANT TO DO THAT YOU EMAILED ME, GO AHEAD, SO “MAYBE” AUTORITIES WILL BLOCK THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FINISHED.
3 THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
1-HYIP = RISK, NOT A SAFE BANK (AND YOU ALL KNEW THAT)
2-I NEVER ACCEPETD MONEY HERE, E-GOLD IS NOT MONEY, IS A SERVICE SO I WONT BE IN THE JAIL
3-SAME WHEN I KNOW I WONT BE IN THE JAIL I AM HERE, RECOVERING AND WORKING. I STARTED FXE TO HELP PEOPLE AND MY BOJECTIVE STILL THE SAME. UNFORTUNATELY THIS SHIT HAPPENED AND MY LIFE IS A HELL NOW.
Marcos Matos: CHAT LATER |
I believe that Marcos is mistaken with his assumption of point # 2. Whether we paid in fiat money or in equivalent kind, he offered a service which did not happen, that is case enough for a claim of fraud.
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Propellertop
Apprentice
Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 80
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:27 am |
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levaz wrote: |
Here is the latest communication between Jude and Marcos:
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I’ve rang him up in 1am his time, he’ll be talking to me again later when he wakes up. Fair enough.
Marcos Matos: man, I need TIME, HERMANN FUCKED ME, NOW THE RECOVERING PROCESS IS DOING FINE, YOU KNOW I WONT DISAPEAR I AM HERE, MY ADDRESS STILL DE SAME, MY PHONE NUMBER STILL THE SAME. WANT PROOFS FROM OUR LOSS?
OK, IF YOU REALY WANT TO DO THAT YOU EMAILED ME, GO AHEAD, SO “MAYBE” AUTORITIES WILL BLOCK THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FINISHED.
3 THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
1-HYIP = RISK, NOT A SAFE BANK (AND YOU ALL KNEW THAT)
2-I NEVER ACCEPETD MONEY HERE, E-GOLD IS NOT MONEY, IS A SERVICE SO I WONT BE IN THE JAIL
3-SAME WHEN I KNOW I WONT BE IN THE JAIL I AM HERE, RECOVERING AND WORKING. I STARTED FXE TO HELP PEOPLE AND MY BOJECTIVE STILL THE SAME. UNFORTUNATELY THIS SHIT HAPPENED AND MY LIFE IS A HELL NOW.
Marcos Matos: CHAT LATER |
I believe that Marcos is mistaken with his assumption of point # 2. Whether we paid in fiat money or in equivalent kind, he offered a service which did not happen, that is case enough for a claim of fraud.
Levaz |
I agree that Marcos is mistaken in his statement but I get the impression, for the context of the conversation, that it was somewhat reactionary. In any event, Marcos has been less than forthcoming and absolutely mute in the forums so it's now or never for him. My understanding is that there'll be a post in the next coupld days. |
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Fabio
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Joined: 25 Sep 2006
Posts: 194
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:07 am |
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Congratulation Mr. Marcos for the statement
I NEVER ACCEPETD MONEY HERE, E-GOLD IS NOT MONEY, IS A SERVICE SO I WONT BE IN THE JAIL
This statement looks so ugly. And it is totally wrong. Talk again with your lawyer Marcos, as this statement is coming from a meeting you had with him!
Beside, here we are not talking of jail or evidences, but of HONOR. So NO pieces of paper are needed to feel committed!
I want to remark, once again, that my bloody money arrived in FXE 2 working days before the famous "sad letter", and I should have my money back immediately for a specific reason: I don't think FXE had even the time to use it, plus FXE did not give me even 1 penny in its life!
I just joined FXE while it was already in deep SH#t! |
_________________ Thank you and have a good day
Best Regards
Fabio |
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levaz
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Joined: 07 Sep 2006
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Location: Canada
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:50 pm |
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That is a good point, Fabio.
It would be apparent that you funds should not (would not) have been affected by the trading losses from before. It would be, therefore, only right for him to have refunded your (and others) monies immediately.
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dreamb0x
Newbie
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 51
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:55 pm |
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I NEVER ACCEPETD MONEY HERE, E-GOLD IS NOT MONEY, IS A SERVICE SO I WONT BE IN THE JAIL
that statement leaves a bad taste in many of us I believe. I hope folks gets their refunds soon |
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Propellertop
Apprentice
Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 80
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:49 pm |
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dreamb0x wrote: |
I NEVER ACCEPETD MONEY HERE, E-GOLD IS NOT MONEY, IS A SERVICE SO I WONT BE IN THE JAIL
that statement leaves a bad taste in many of us I believe. I hope folks gets their refunds soon |
I believe that Jude indicated that he got ahold of Marcos at 1AM and he was likely sleeping. His response on HYIPD is probably more indicative of his how he actually feels when he isn't under constant pressure. One can only hope that ppl will get some or all of their money refunded. |
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levaz
Site Admin
Joined: 07 Sep 2006
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Location: Canada
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:53 pm |
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Here is the latest communication from Marcos:
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Here is the translated version of an update from Marcos. You can find the original from Hyipd forums if you want.
Hello,
First of all I would like to ask for your forgiveness for the long period without an official announcement from me. I read your posts every week, with a lot of sadness, all the comments posted here, and whether or not you want to believe it, I feel as badly as you all do. I noticed that with each post I wrote here, the impatience of some of you grew, when the objective was to actually calm you down. A lot of you don't even believe that it is really me (Marcos) posting here under the fx-experts user name.
I want to tell you that pressure will not bring your money back, much to the contrary, it will only fill me with further anguish, which will only further delay the whole process. On the other hand, I understand your fear that I will just disappear. Because of this I want you all to revive your trust in me as you once had and know that I still continue, and will continue to work and giving my best for you all. I haven't done anything else other than try to recover the loss of around 80% of our main account, which contained about 70% of total funds invested.
I hope that nobody here invested more than they could afford to lose or risk, since we all know that this is a basic rule that any conscientious investor knows. If it brings you any comfort, know that we are in this situation together because I also lost a lot of my personal money in this. I also want you all to know that nobody has received any type of refund yet, not even my own mother, who had about $18K invested.
As everyone knows, the loss was very big, and now is not the time to cry about it. All we have to do is work. I, Marcos, am working on a total or partial recovery of this big loss. And you, unfortunately also find yourselves in a situation where you need to work, on your patience. Initially we had a super scalp that would give us the opportunity to recover the loss in 1 or 2 months. The same is still found, in a construction stage and adaptation to the conditions offered by the broker. Meanwhile, we are operating with very low risk. To date, we were able to gain approximately 7% on the initial deposit on the account. Once again I repeat that patience will be necessary. Without patience things could get worse. We know that slowly we can go far.
I ask for your comprehension and collaboration. I know that some of you here will be on my side, others will be questioning and yet others will be bothering, nobody is alike. But I hope that you all understand that collaboration on your part will be of much help.
I understand I was absent for a long while and will make sure to always come here, even if just to say "we're still alive and working", until this situation reaches a comfortable level for a happy ending for us all.
Sincerely,
Marcos Matos
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Fabio
Investor
Joined: 25 Sep 2006
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:18 pm |
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English is not my native tongue! Did he say that he gained back only the 7% after all this months? |
_________________ Thank you and have a good day
Best Regards
Fabio |
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levaz
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Location: Canada
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:06 pm |
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That sounds about right, Fabio. Although, your particular case, I feel that you have been cheated, since your funds were sent after all the losses occurred. IMO, he should have refunded you the very same day!
Levaz |
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Fabio
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Joined: 25 Sep 2006
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:12 pm |
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So, what is the solution?
Should I feel challenged by him and try to take him to the jail?
You are right, I HAVE BEEN CHEATED BY MARCOS CAZZOS MATOS |
_________________ Thank you and have a good day
Best Regards
Fabio |
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levaz
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Location: Canada
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:16 pm |
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Fabio wrote: |
So, what is the solution?
Should I feel challenged by him and try to take him to the jail?
You are right, I HAVE BEEN CHEATED BY MARCOS CAZZOS MATOS |
You are in contact with VonTrust, see what he recommends! Also, you could send an e-mail to Marcos, and see what his reply is.
Levaz |
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Fabio
Investor
Joined: 25 Sep 2006
Posts: 194
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:07 pm |
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I will try, please provide Marcos email. You know already the answer.
Von Trust is not going to interfere.
Thank you |
_________________ Thank you and have a good day
Best Regards
Fabio |
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levaz
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Location: Canada
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:51 pm |
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Fabio wrote: |
I will try, please provide Marcos email. You know already the answer.
Von Trust is not going to interfere.
Thank you |
If you are a a member at hyipD, use the e-mail that Marcos registered over there. I do not have any other e-mail address.
Levaz |
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d1ck0
Moderator
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 226
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:26 pm |
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Marcos has been posting in hyip discussion today. Interestingly, it appears that contact with member 'Rabbit' who first audited FXE has now not taken place for over two months due to rabbits disappearance. One member commented that rabbit has actually blown 60k. Not sure how true this is. A few copied posts below.
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Originally Posted by *********
Hey,
Rabbit is mssing and running with other people's money. Anyone here got details on where and how to get in contact with him? |
Posted by Marcos today
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Where are you Mr. Akwow?
He is not answering my e-mails and also do not answer SMS.
He was usually online, at least 1 or 2 times per week. I don't see him around for a month or 2 already. I am getting woried. Maybe some bad health.
Can anyone contact him please and leave a message here telling that this guy is alive?
Akwooooooooooooooow??? Where are you? |
Posted by another HyipD member after Marcos post.
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The last time I spoke with him and asked him about how bad SVI is performing and guese what? He pretends everything's okay... it was until I checked the SVI forums and found out the truth. I asked him to make an explaination and he said "What explaination?". That answer stunned me. 60 GRAND BLOWN in couple of months! |
I'm probably been a bit thick here, does anyone know what SVI stands for? I'm assuming its a program that Rabbit run? Just curious more than anything. |
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levaz
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Posts: 2422
Location: Canada
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:17 pm |
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Could it be this:
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SVI Private Plan
Targeted profit: 40% - 55% per month
Withdrawal Profit: Every month
Withdrawal fee: No
Pending payment: 3 – 5 business days
Compound: No
Referral Commission: No
Period: 6-12 months
Principal Amount: Hold for 6 -12 months
Withdraw Principal: 25% fee from principal amount after maturity
45% fee from principal amount before maturity
Minimum Deposit: USD 150.00 = 1 unit
Maximum Deposit: USD 15,000.00 = 100 unit
Additional unit : You are able to add or increase your initial deposit up to USD 15,000 between 25th - 31st every month. |
I did not hear about this one either. I am still searching.
Levaz |
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Gray Eminence
Investor
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 160
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:20 am |
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levaz wrote: |
Could it be this:
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SVI Private Plan
Targeted profit: 40% - 55% per month
Withdrawal Profit: Every month
Withdrawal fee: No
Pending payment: 3 – 5 business days
Compound: No
Referral Commission: No
Period: 6-12 months
Principal Amount: Hold for 6 -12 months
Withdraw Principal: 25% fee from principal amount after maturity
45% fee from principal amount before maturity
Minimum Deposit: USD 150.00 = 1 unit
Maximum Deposit: USD 15,000.00 = 100 unit
Additional unit : You are able to add or increase your initial deposit up to USD 15,000 between 25th - 31st every month. |
I did not hear about this one either. I am still searching.
Levaz |
You will not fund much around, it has been very private, by Rabbit invitation only to some big names or the Hyip arena. I never saw the above but it fit what I've been told about the program, big promises in Forex and big desillusions after a few month.
As usual, people took huge risks and now don't accept it, they prefer to blame the risky trader.
My question is : why is Marcos so scared by the disappearance of Rabbit? He was only a DDer of his site, alive or not, it doesn't have any impact on his recovery.
Or has Marcos given our funds to Rabbit for trading? Meaning that FXE is finally dead? |
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d1ck0
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Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:42 pm |
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levaz
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Location: Canada
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Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:48 pm |
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That is good for MIF investors. Let us hope the same news pops up for FX-E soon!!
Levaz |
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