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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello Proven Paying Programs Members
I would like to introduce you to a new program AMF Brokerage Limited.
AMF Brokerage Limited is a invitation only program you may pm me for the invitation After you review AMF Brokerage Limited . Here is a link to AMF Brokerage Limited here you will find all the Due Diligence (DD) on AMF Brokerage Limited such as location of the office,
Country of registration, Registered Office, Registration number and AMF Brokerage Limited is Certified by Controlscan.com. http://www.amf1989.com

I feel very confident that AMF will have it's own Folder here at ppp, Even though AMF is new I believe they are set some high standard to be on the top.

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whizzer
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Too many red flags.

1. They claim to do forex, yet on another page its mutual funds.
2. Fixed and high rates.
3. No real addresses. Only PO Boxes, virtual addresses etc.
3. Poor spelling.
4. Incomplete website (Ie. missing information/pages)
5. Website on a shared server.

Didn't even bother checking the registration number.
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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

BUSINESS BACKGROUND REVIEWED CERTIFICATION:
ControlScan has performed an in depth business background review on AMF Brokerage Ltd. and has awarded them with the Business Background Reviewed Certification. The business background review is an in depth business background check that makes sure the company is a valid and legitimate business with ethical business standards.

ControlScan has Issued amf1989.com the Business Background Reviewed Certification through:

* Verification of Business Address and Location
* Verification of Business Registrations
* Search for Possible Bankruptcies
* Search for Possible Liens/Judgments
* Internet Domain Names Registered to the Business
* Business registrations and location have been verified by using third party sources to confirm the information posted on the business website is correct and valid.

You can shop in confidence knowing your personal information is safe with AMF Brokerage Ltd..

The AMF Brokerage Ltd. ControlScan Certification seals have been validated and are authentic. Visit www.ControlScan.com for more details.

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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Trading Platform

They have just manged to get a partnership with a huge Swiss brokerage and will have our own platform up soon this coming week. The partnership comes from 3rd biggest online brokerage company in the world.

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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

whizzer wrote:
Too many red flags.
No real addresses. Only PO Boxes, virtual addresses etc.
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I do not see any po box Address

AMF Brokerage Limited
1461 A First Avenue, # 360 New York, NY 10021-2209 USA.
Phone:001 (631) 593 4130
Fax:001 (631) 693 4014

AMF Brokerage Limited
95 Wilton Road Suite 3 London SW1V 1BZ United Kingdom.
Phone:+44 208 114 9503
Fax:+44 208 114 9603

AMF Brokerage Limited
Country of registration: Belize
Registered Office: Suite 5, Garden City Plaza Mountainview Boulevard City of Belmopan Belize.
Registration number: 56108

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salterus
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

All the information provided by ControlScan (if true) only means that AMF paid 1k o 2k for a business structure that provides them anonymity...
With forex based fixed high returns and "hand-made hacker style" webpage I will wait until a strong DD reseach is done before investing.

Fixed 25% per month... I would be very pleased if their trading is so good Smile Wink
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whizzer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Does it matter if its a PO box or a virtual address? both are used for anonymity... a bad sign already.

I don't know how controlscan conducts its business verifications, but if they verify this one, one should perhaps be very cautious with them in the future.

If you have nothing to hide, then post the company registration number and other vital information and stop lurking in the shadows.
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levaz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

whizzer wrote:
Does it matter if its a PO box or a virtual address? both are used for anonymity... a bad sign already.

I don't know how controlscan conducts its business verifications, but if they verify this one, one should perhaps be very cautious with them in the future.

If you have nothing to hide, then post the company registration number and other vital information and stop lurking in the shadows.


Definitely agree that Control Scan will also require verification since they are supposedly the verification source.

They did publish their Company Registration #, but I am sure if you contact Mr. Gandhi, he will just issue one of his famous "not licensed" to solicit funds in Belize, which means a whole lot of nothing sinc enone of teh companies solicit funds inside Belize!!

I am weary of the 25% FIXED returns from FX though. It just seems improbable. Let us keep an eye on this. I have seen several such offers, none of which lasted more than 6 months - if they last 6 months, then I will look into the program.

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Fabio
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Phone number: Skype or Vonage - location of the fake number is Long Island

Address: another part of NY, Manhattan... not the same location of the "fake phone line". This because New York City Skype/Vonage phone number are old sold out since long time.

They were already listed in Aprile 2004 in the list of the UNAUTHORIZED BANKS.

WITHERSPOON, SEYMOUR & ROBINSON
INCORPORATED (WSR II C.)
Office of New York
1461 A First Avenue, Suite 360
New York, NY 10021-2209


I will provide, just for curiosity, what/who stays at the provided address (that in other words is east 76 & 1st Ave).
1) Hosting Company???
2) Mail Drop / UPS store???

Definitely they smell like old garbage.
Reading in other forum that who made question in their forum was PERMANENTLY BANNED.

I hope this was "informative"

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Fabio
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok... at the address there is:
Neighborhood Postal Center
Bill Brand & Gary Pierantoni
1461 1st Ave
Tel 212 734-4412
Fax 212 734-4431
Open Monday to Friday 8.30 - 7
Sat 11 - 5

The "suite #" is (the guy at the desk said) a nice way for customers to hide in a fancy way a (cold anonymous and simple, I am adding) P.O. BOX number ... that's it

Regards

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I did a bit of a digging just to confirm my suspicions.

He name is (if not fake) Ritish Dorai and seems to be from Malaysia.
It also seems that he owns www.hyipthegame.com (down), 1-dollar.biz, mydailyforexpay.com (which also pays 25%) and www.cleancashmoney.com and possibly even genesisprofit.com.

I also found his skype, ICQ, MSN and YIM numbers and email address.
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whizzer
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Now lets have a look at ControlScan....

Quote:
The ControlScan Business Background Reviewed Certification means the certified site is a valid and legitimate business with ethical business standards. - FAILED!

To obtain the Business Background Reviewed Certification by ControlScan, businesses must pass a detailed business background check that includes:

* Verification of Business Address and Location - FAILED!
* Verification of Business Registrations
* Search for Possible Bankruptcies
* Search for Possible Liens/Judgments
* Internet Domain Names Registered to the Business
* Business registrations and location have been verified by using third party sources to confirm the information posted on the business website is correct and valid. - FAILED!

A Dun & Bradstreet Report is requested on the business to further confirm and validate information posted on the business's website. All irregularities that are discovered will have to be remedied prior to ControlScan certification and will prevent businesses from posting the Business Background Reviewed certification. - FAILED!


They failed at least 4 of their checks...
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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

well I see a lot of negativeness on AMF since this is a new program I can understand that for my self I'm going to give them a chance for I was in a previous program that the adman was running My Daily Forex Pay and that program started in late June of 06 . I know the fixed 25% monthly rate is
high I would rather see a adjustable % rate but I'm not the Administrator of AMF . I also Know that if you want to chat with the Adman of AMF he is very willing to do so .

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

elkhorn wrote:
well I see a lot of negativeness on AMF since this is a new program I can understand that for my self I'm going to give them a chance for I was in a previous program that the adman was running My Daily Forex Pay and that program started in late June of 06 . I know the fixed 25% monthly rate is
high I would rather see a adjustable % rate but I'm not the Administrator of AMF . I also Know that if you want to chat with the Adman of AMF he is very willing to do so .


Elkhorn,

At any cost, please do not take the statements as directed to your person. These observations made by our members help us evaluate the genuineness of the programs concerned. It will also help the casual reader arrive at a more educated decision.

As I stated earlier, if the program survives 6 months of consistent payments, I will have a closer look at them.

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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well it looks like AMF put their correct contact phone # on their web site I know there was some thing not right with a little investigating I see a few of the previous concerns about AMF are being addressed and fixed.

USA
Phone:001 (716) 989 6175

Fax:001 (631) 850 5452


UK
Phone:+44 208 114 9503

Fax:+44 208 090 6172

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Elkhorn,

If you decide to give it a try, which I would not recommend, make sure to withdraw your principal as soon as possible and play with profit only.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We have information that one of our members, Whizzer, has completed a closer examination of this program. We wait the presentation.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OK, OK!
Since I posted this on other places already, I can as well post it here.

The findings I made on the web caused the admin to actually come out and defend his program. He might have good intentions and it might be a legit company, but unfortunately the pattern of the findings is pointing the other direction.


AMF Brokerage Admin (poster = drtish73@yahoo.co.uk):
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=%22AMF+BROKERAGE%22+%22looking+for+good%22&btnG=S%C3%B6k&meta=

Email/YM/MSN/ICQ:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:fqbshq2MwewJ:forum.lowyat.net/lofiversion/index.php/t382684.html+drtish73&hl=sv&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=se

Admin of HYIPtheGame:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lofiversion/index.php/t63090.html
(look at the the 3rd post)

Admin of MyDailyForexPay (top right corner):
https://www.mydailyforexpay.com

Admin of GensisProfit:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=103201&st=3000&p=3093924&#entry3093924

Possibly involved with MMGInvest and EliteVentures:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lofiversion/index.php/t103201-3100.html


This is what I found within an hour or two, which make me believe its just the tip of the iceberg. Who know how many other programs he is running under different aliases.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If this person was indeed involved with GP, EV, etc., then I would highly recommend that you use the get in and get out strategy. All the other programs have scammed and given crappy reasons.

So all of you know where the initial payments are coming from - the poor suckers who lost in their previous programs.

Be very careful with this one.

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elkhorn
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

DD for AMF Brokerage ltd
Date Posted: 2007-02-17

If you have invested with us for up 10k and above and are verified. You can ask to see our company papers as well Trading records every once a month. Every time you would like to see our Trading records it will be a new request. Since we have just started we shall start obliging these request once we are two months old. (For our trading records.) We have 4 trades one is in Forex, Hedging, Bank trades and also Futures/Options. Therefore funds will be spread out and have minimum risk involved.

[News edited- Amount needed is 10k USD now]



I my self would not invest 10k just to see DD LOL.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

elkhorn wrote:
I my self would not invest 10k just to see DD LOL.


Smile Agreed, paper not worth the risk right now. I feel that it would be prudent to observe this for the next 6 - 9 months, and then develop a plan of approach to tackle this program.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Great DD work on this one, not surprised about involvement in Genesis Fund or Elite Ventures, at least the previous version. I have to agree, there are probably other programs as well. I don't think it is even worth the bother to watch, just another scamorama. That said, it's always good to know the "players".


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